HOT OR NOT MEME

[devoutish]

1. Post images of your characters (please link large ones!)
2. Tag other characters with an IC rating.
3. Have very objective and important IC discussions about those ratings.

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Comments

[trouvaille]

It's still as irrelevant as it was a moment ago to the fact that a beautiful woman in a dress I don't especially care for gets a 7.5? Oh no, I teased men, heaven forfend that ever happen to some grown adult pricks. People are far too cruel to men about their appearances, what with all the beauty standards that they're subjected to and - oh, wait.

Well, and one child, but you don't care about him and anyway it's a public service because he was baiting predators. Put a fucking shirt on, probable twelve year olds. ( he's seventeen. whatever, it's the same. )

[glowsferatu]

Okay, so the only point that I'm getting out of that stream of inanity you've just let out is that you have no idea what teasing is, and probably learned it from a wholly unrelated instructional video because you'd probably never met a person before? I don't know, but it was really stupid, and kind of pathetic.

[ She has no idea how, but Kanaya almost feels sorry for her over it. ]

Cruelty over beauty standards may not apply as strongly to men in conventional circumstances, where they're all human and the rest of their society is too. But you were singling them out for how human their natural appearances aren't, which is the sort of thing we tend to get all the time in this sort of society. You might not have noticed.

[ What with the whole "looking exactly like a human" thing. ]

For the record, and this is something you might want to remember in the future, teasing is meant to be funny and charming. I can help define those words for you as well, since you seem not to be familiar with basic concepts of their kind.

[trouvaille]

( kanaya makes such irritatingly good points that pointing out she also doesn't care about their feelings or want to be their friends would not help her case whatsoever. who cares about men's feelings!!!!! kanaya, apparently. fine.

sullenly, eventually, )

Why do you think I look like this. It isn't real.

( she's noticed. )

[glowsferatu]

[ Generally, she could leave men's feelings wherever, unless they're weak and hapless and fully incapable of taking care of themselves, because she can't help her nurturing instincts. But aliens, that matters. And non-human Terrans too, sure, they have a lot of the same problems.

Especially because she won't let herself hide who she is, or let anyone else catch flak for it either. It's just something she cares a lot about, and she can't abide Gwen's discomfort with others being more open than she's willing to be. ]

Then it seems that your disguise is more than just skin deep.

[trouvaille]

It's a long story. ( not in the suggestive, coaxing tone of someone who wants to tell it; the flat closed door of someone who is not under the illusion her audience wants to hear it. )

My point is I wasn't rude or unkind to you until you started it, and never about your looks, which I complimented. Which you keep overlooking to decide I hate nonhumans existing. The point is rating who you do and do not wish to fuck. Some nonhumans don't do it for me! Some do! Miraculously, the world does not end.

[glowsferatu]

[ She's not sure she'd want to hear the story anyway. ]

And my point is treating people like the fact that you wouldn't like to fuck them, when the reasons are purely due to their appearance, as if this is some great failing on their parts that they should be faulted for, is shitty. Not finding them attractive is a perfectly fair thing!

It's the way you express the fact that makes you much uglier. That's the sort of person I don't need compliments from.

[ Of course, a lot of that possibly stems from how her types tends to be really shitty women. She's not innocent of overcompensating to distance herself from that. ]

[trouvaille]

One, it's the game. Two, I talked to everyone the same way. Three, I think we've firmly established the problem with you is entirely personality.

[glowsferatu]

Mmhmm. If that's what helps you sleep at night.